Part 7. MORE ON THE FRAUDULENT PARANORMAL CHALLENGE
(This would be fairly
close to a real cross-examination- the information is taken
from what closed-minded materialist J.Zwingi Randi has ALREADY
ACCEPTED and IMPLIED. Some very minor flexibility and embellishment
consistent with Zwingi Randi’s beliefs and record
have been used for easier reading and understanding of the
script. In no way this closed minded skeptic's beliefs are
misrepresented. Words in caps are there for emphasis - very
important in cross-examination).
OF THE CLOSED MINDED SKEPTIC’
- WHY PROFESSIONAL PSYCHICS AND MEDIUMS DO NOT TAKE THE
ALLEGED MILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE SERIOUSLY:
Victor: Back to your alleged challenge.
Have you put on oath an undertaking to abide by the conditions
of your alleged challenge?
Randi: No … it’s not
Victor: Do you not agree –
given your background - that IF YOUR CHALLENGE IS TO BE
TAKEN SERIOUSLY, you need to be prepared to be legally bound
by its conditions?
Randi: No, I don’t agree with
Victor: Don’t you think it
will show the applicant you really have an HONEST challenge?
Randi: No ….
Victor: Have you not heard that
psychics and mediums are totally ignoring your challenge
because you can renege – you can go back on the deal
even after the applicant succeeds in passing the first test?
Randi: They’re not ignoring
my challenge …
Victor: Is it not a fact that if
you put the conditions of your challenge on oath and you
renege you could go to jail for years for perjury –
and that’s why your challenge is not taken seriously?
Randi: My challenge is taken seriously
Victor: Is that so? In the last
forty years, how many internationally known highly professional
and gifted psychics and mediums, some of whom have been
tested by scientists, applied to meet your challenge?
Randi ..(Does not answer)
Victor: HOW MANY I asked …
ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Randi: (still quiet)
Victor: (Looks at judge) ..
Judge: Yes, yes, (looks at Randi)
answer the question …
Randi: (Very quietly …)
No one …
Victor: Could you repeat that more
loudly, that came across as a whisper …
Randi: All right … NO ONE
… but I had a number …
Victor: GIFTED MEDIUMS I said, not
just any clown calling himself or herself a psychic or a
Randi: No one …
Victor: Is it not true that the
record shows that NOT ONE professional psychic, NOT ONE
medium in some 40 years applied … because they perceive
YOUR challenge as the GREATEST HOAX, the GREATEST, MOST
DISGUSTING JOKE in paranormal history?
Randi: No, my challenge is genuine
Victor: Yes … so you say …Why
are you failing the public at large by trying to use deception
in your conditions leaving critical essentials such as what
constitutes a successful result?
Randi: I am not using deception
Victor: So, WHO determines whether
or not the applicant passed the first test?
Randi: … If a psychic performs
successfully, then anyone would see that the applicant has
been successful …
Victor: WHO has the final decision
as to whether or not the psychic passed the first test?
Randi: (Quietly) …
I suppose I would be the one …
Victor: Ultimately, YOU would be
the one you said? If that’s the case, are you not
ACTING AS JUDGE AND JURY in your OWN CAUSE which fundamentally
violates EQUITY and which makes your challenge clearly another
hoax? – answer the question yes or no.
Randi: I don’t have to answer
Victor: (Looks at the judge)…
Judge: Yes, yes, (to Randi)
you must answer the question … Randi: I can’t
answer that question ..
Victor: (looks at the judge)
Judge: Answer the question or I
hold you in contempt …
Randi: Yes, I suppose I would be
judging in my own cause but I will be fair …
Victor: Fair as you were in the
similar hoaxes we’ve already covered – the Carlos
Affair … the Alpha Project ….?
Randi: In my mind I think I’m
Victor: If you conceded that you
are acting as a judge and jury in your own cause in the
psychic tests, does not that show it is IMPOSSIBLE for an
applicant to beat ANY test?
Randi: It’s possible to pass
the test …
Victor: Are you not just like the
Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan being asked whether African Americans
are just as intelligent as white people?
Randi: I don’t like to be
compared to the Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan ..
Victor: Is not the analogy EXACTLY
the same – someone making a decision in his own cause?
Randi: I don’t see it that
Victor: Of course not! If you want
to come across as being honest, decent and someone with
integrity, will you permit highly informed INDEPENDENT experts
to adjudicate as truly independent judges to decide if the
challenge test has been successful?
Randi: NO NO NO … NEVER …
Victor: So, you have this ridiculous
challenge all scientists, genuine mediums and psychics totally
ignore … with ridiculous conditions all favoring you
– and you are acting as judge and jury and when no
appeal is allowed - and you expect gifted psychics and mediums
not to treat your challenge as the MOST FRAUDULENT CHALLENGE
IN PARANORMAL HISTORY?
Randi: They’ll have to try
Victor: When your CONDUCT, your
HISTORY, your PRACTICE, your MANIPULATIONS, your expressly
stated statements and imputations ALL say that you do NOT
accept the paranormal and the afterlife evidence –
how can there be honest and impartial assessment of any
Randi: (No answer …)
They can sue me if they like …
Victor: Until very recently you
had a condition which made the applicant formally surrender
all legal rights to you. But if you decided to renege by
either going bankrupt or by saying you don’t have
the money that would have left you off the hook. What motivated
you to change your mind about that – the conditions
of the rival million dollar challenge by that Sydney lawyer?
Randi: NO ….
Victor: And another thing, when
highly credible scientists and lawyers can show the existence
of the afterlife, your funding of one million dollars would
have come through grants and collection from the gullible
skeptical members of the public and other places who swallowed
your propaganda hook, line and sinker … why should
you GAMBLE with monies obtained for a Foundation –
in some States it would be illegal to gamble with ‘charity’
cash … do you know if that is illegal in your State?
Randi: No, it’s not illegal
Victor: You said you may not be
conducting the initial test with the applicant .. who will
be doing the test for you, someone reliable?
Randi: Yes, someone most reliable
– a psychologist I’ve known for years and he’s
highly qualified to conduct experiments … I trust
him completely ..
Victor: One of your colleagues I
Randi: Yes, he happens to be a colleague
and I can trust him …
Victor: Can you name him now?
Randi: NO, I am not prepared to
mention his name here …
Victor: Will you be at every psychic
Randi: Yes, of course …
Victor: Do you know what the EXPERIMENTER
Randi: NO, and I don’t want
to know …
Victor: Let me very briefly preface
my next question: as someone who is ALLEGEDLY offering one
million dollars, it is important to know what the ‘experimenter
effect’ is – (Victor looking at his notes on
his desk )… the accepted definition of ‘experimenter
effect’ refers to a situation where if a closed-minded
SKEPTIC experimenter conducts an experiment, he or she will
inevitably obtain NEGATIVE results. Now is that why you
do NOT want to talk about the ‘experimenter effect’?
Randi: I don’t believe in
the ‘experimenter effect’ ...
Victor: Ever heard of Professor
Randi: I don’t remember her
Victor: Of course not! Professor
Schlitz’ experiments on the ‘experimenter effect’
confirmed that neutral experimenters get positive results
but a closed minded skeptic doing EXACTLY THE SAME experiment
will always obtain negative results … do you not now
see why you don’t want to know anything about the
‘experimenter effect’ and why your challenge
is being treated as a great joke?
Randi: It’s not being treated
as a joke …
Victor: You understand now why more
professional psychics, mediums and afterlife investigators
treat your challenge as a Mickey Mouse challenge- something
to laugh at, something to ignore, something ridiculous which
is perceived as pure ILLUSION?
Randi: I repeat, there’s no
such thing as the experiment effect I say …
Victor: Tell us, would it not be
correct to say that your contribution really has been a
most negative one, spreading darkness everywhere, trying
to negatively influence the gullible and those other skeptics
who do not accept there is an afterlife … to elicit
fear and hopelessness and despair? – On second thought
– don’t even try to answer that – I withdraw
that question … we’ll get more nonsense from