PSYCHIC DETECTIVES ......
FORENSIC PSYCHIC DEBBIE MALONE
Debbie Malone, worked on a murder with us where we had a
(male) suspect who committed suicide. Since then the inquest
has finished and the coroner has confirmed our findings
that the man who committed suicide also committed the murder.
We took Debbie up to the murder scene and used her because
we couldn’t talk to the suspect.
I had seen Sensing Murder on television and so I contacted
her. We didn’t tell her about the murder or anything
and she gave her time for free. I gave her some of the deceased
jewellery and she told us a fair bit about the victim’s
life. A lot of the stuff she did tell us was pretty spot-on
with the young victim’s lifestyle – that she
was a prostitute and a drug addict and the types of drugs
that she preferred. So she did come up with a lot of things
about the victim.
We asked her to give us a description of where the body
was found. She gave us 50-50 (accuracy) on the location
and gave some directions how to get there. We put her in
a car and we started driving and we got to a certain location
and she said yeah, this is right. So we turned off to the
right and she said you’re going the wrong way. You’ve
got to go straight ahead. She said you brought me this way,
but they came a different way with Maria. She said there
are Norfolk pines and was talking about water and indeed
there were Norfolk pines right near where Maria was found.
So she was pretty spot on.
Then we took her to where the body was found and she told
us how the body was lying and she was pretty spot on there
too. We suspected Maria was murdered in a cabin. We took
Debbie in there without telling her anything and she said
this is where it happened. What I didn’t tell her
was that they had re-done the cabin interior and moved all
the rooms around so it was nothing like when we found the
body. She said the murder weapon was disposed of here but
I can’t work it out. It was dropped down a kitchen
pipe but she didn’t realise the kitchen sink had since
She took us to another area and said there’s something
about right here, this is where he got a blanket. And it
was where the old blanket cupboard was and we suspected
he got a blanket to wrap the body in. She also said whoever
did this used to live here before moving to Queensland shortly
after. And he did. He moved to Queensland within three weeks
and then committed suicide a few weeks later. We didn’t
tell her all that. She brought all that up straight out
How did it feel when you realised
how accurate Debbie was?
Very scary, very scary (laughs) especially when she said
Maria still spends time with you. I’m so skeptical
of psychics but there were a lot of things that I couldn’t
put my finger on. I don’t know if she’s a good
researcher…I’m not sure...but a lot of things
(she got right) like the suspect going to Queensland. Unless
she had access to the police files no-one would have known
that. It was never in a story or anything.
So there was information she came
up with that she couldn’t have known?
The bit about him going to Queensland she couldn’t
have known. It was only stored on our police computer. It
had never been released to anyone. I don’t think she
would have had access to anyone who could have got the documentsShe
didn’t give us anything that we didn’t have
but then again there was no way we could confirm what we
did have. We couldn’t talk to the suspect so we thought
that (bringing Debbie in) might be one avenue…just
for our own peace of mind. We thought if she could come
up with anything that gelled with what we had (it would
be good) and she did. She actually came up very good.
Psychics’ evidence is inadmissible
in court though?
Yeah it wasn’t used at all in the coroner’s
inquest. The NSW police, their official line is that they
don’t accept psychics but I know they have been used
a lot. Their evidence is inadmissible. All you can do is
pick up on what they give you. Then you have to find fact
with what they tell you